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lmao Firefox billing itself an "indie browser" when poking you to make it the default is straight up disingenuous

I mean, you don't have to say out loud that it's basically Google's anti-antitrust insurance, but let's not err too far on the other side either...

@fasterthanlime I'm using Firefox, but will drop it immediately once servo/verso meets my needs 🦀

@jokeyrhyme wait, verso?

@fasterthanlime

links2 ftw

y'all, if a non-profit's livelihood depends entirely on one big corporate sponsor... is it indie?

no. no it's not. mozillians know that. only their fan base keeps deluding themselves. and their new marketing plays into that. it's ridiculous and transparent.

(nobody on the fediverse seems too confused about it but my bluesky replies are a trash fire of anger and denial)

@fasterthanlime @jokeyrhyme https://github.com/versotile-org/verso "a web browser built on top of the Servo web engine"

@fasterthanlime so which browser is indie ? The ladybird ?

@Vrixyz @fasterthanlime Servo’s been managed by the Linux Foundation for a couple of years now so it’s the closest thing to an indie engine but last time I checked its layout engine only supports sane modern things and ignores the 25 odd years of the web prior. But it is actively being worked on. Other than that you’re stuck with Google-funded Gecko/Blink or Apple-funded WebKit.
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@Vrixyz @fasterthanlime given Servo’s timelines even when it had Mozilla funding I think Ladybird’s release estimates might be a little bit optimistic to cover even a small amount of the edge cases that make up the modern internet but I’d be really happy to be proven wrong

here's where "indie browser" appears in the firefox sources btw, if you thought I straight up made stuff up: https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/search?q=indie+browser&path=&case=false&regexp=false

(it's even preceded by a fun comment)

searchfox results showing fox-doodle-pin-body = Here’s a quick reminder that you can keep your favorite indie browser just one click away.

and here's a May 2025 article from bloomberg explaining why Google sponsors Firefox, if my original post sounded like a conspiracy theory to you: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-google-keeps-paying-mozilla-s-firefox-even-as-chrome-dominates

@fasterthanlime damn, an article from the future? 😄

@jplatte woops, I've been rewatching Back To The Future, my bad